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Posted 11 months ago
im guessing at least one of you out there regularly buys/drinks this stuff. i recently had a craving for it strangely but im somewhat hesitant to just simply buy it online or just go for one of the "legal" versions now available in the US since ive never done this before.
anyways, does anyone know what imports are legal to buy and if not, what the practical risk of even buying it illegally online is? right now i specifically want to get a bottle of La Clandestine Absinthe but i cant for the life of my find the thujone lvl to see if it is legal or not...
anyways, does anyone know what imports are legal to buy and if not, what the practical risk of even buying it illegally online is? right now i specifically want to get a bottle of La Clandestine Absinthe but i cant for the life of my find the thujone lvl to see if it is legal or not...
Pomme-grenade Posted 11 months ago
I have never bought a bottle myself so I wouldnt know how to help you with that but all I can say is if the bottle is bought in then u.s. its no good and the ones that I have tryed and actually have had any effect or even have good taste where from friends who brought them from europe or an absinthe bar in guadalajara
Posted 11 months ago
theres really no effect period imo, i just want sometihng tasty to drink. I know most of the stuff in the US is no good, i.e Lucid but theres a few import brands that dont seem like they can be too bad like Kubler, i dont know since I havent tried them.
From what I found out the other day, the legal amount of thujone now in the states is 10ppm whch is similar to the common restriction in most of EU of 10mg/L. Most absinthe bottles are 0.7 L, at least for La Clandestine, but the only info I could find on its Thujone level is that its less then 30mg. And despite whether the thujone level is good or not, it seems the act of selling it into the US is still illegal. Alcohol in general can be seized by the post office if they find it desipte if its legal or not. The general consensus seems to be that buying it holds no risk aside from simply getting your order confiscated and being out a good amount of money.
So...i guess really my main concern is what the chance of getting it confiscated are. Im gonna guess it doesnt meet the 10 ppm requirement regardless, but I dont want to be out 100 bucks and get nothing in case of confiscation.
btw the recent legalization of absinthe is somewhat interesting in that it had little to do with the actual thujone level. although it was changed so that there could be a small concentration of it in drinks, research has shown that the level of thujone in absinthe could have never brought upon hallucinations or really any ill effects at all. Most of the stigma and reason for banning is upon other market forces such as wineries villainizing absinthe as some sort of evil drink as an attempt to kill a potential competitor. The whole recent debacle over legalizing the drink here actually had more to do with the actual name then the substances within thus showing the negative stigma attached to it.
From what I found out the other day, the legal amount of thujone now in the states is 10ppm whch is similar to the common restriction in most of EU of 10mg/L. Most absinthe bottles are 0.7 L, at least for La Clandestine, but the only info I could find on its Thujone level is that its less then 30mg. And despite whether the thujone level is good or not, it seems the act of selling it into the US is still illegal. Alcohol in general can be seized by the post office if they find it desipte if its legal or not. The general consensus seems to be that buying it holds no risk aside from simply getting your order confiscated and being out a good amount of money.
So...i guess really my main concern is what the chance of getting it confiscated are. Im gonna guess it doesnt meet the 10 ppm requirement regardless, but I dont want to be out 100 bucks and get nothing in case of confiscation.
btw the recent legalization of absinthe is somewhat interesting in that it had little to do with the actual thujone level. although it was changed so that there could be a small concentration of it in drinks, research has shown that the level of thujone in absinthe could have never brought upon hallucinations or really any ill effects at all. Most of the stigma and reason for banning is upon other market forces such as wineries villainizing absinthe as some sort of evil drink as an attempt to kill a potential competitor. The whole recent debacle over legalizing the drink here actually had more to do with the actual name then the substances within thus showing the negative stigma attached to it.
Strawberry Beam Posted 11 months ago
I also dont know much about just that my cousin had one drink in belgium where is illegal, and got completely drunked
Posted 11 months ago
its near impossible to get drunk off of one drink of this. thats like getting wasted off a bottle or two of bud.
.....i mean unless you drink it straight which i hope no one does, the alcohol concentration is fairly low. Its usually diluted from 5:1 to 3:1 with water which would typically give you a 10-17ish% drink.
if you havent tried it though, id say its worth a shot if you can. you wont hallucinate and its really not all its made out to be by todays hipsters but it is an interesting taste. especially if you dont like the taste of alcohol generally and tend to stick to like wine coolers, id say this is a good bet since when prepared, its really sweet and the alcohol taste is masked well.
.....i mean unless you drink it straight which i hope no one does, the alcohol concentration is fairly low. Its usually diluted from 5:1 to 3:1 with water which would typically give you a 10-17ish% drink.
if you havent tried it though, id say its worth a shot if you can. you wont hallucinate and its really not all its made out to be by todays hipsters but it is an interesting taste. especially if you dont like the taste of alcohol generally and tend to stick to like wine coolers, id say this is a good bet since when prepared, its really sweet and the alcohol taste is masked well.
Posted 11 months ago
I don't know. I'd love to try it sometime though. Looks like best (only?) way is to get it online. Most websites I googled quickly seemed to maintain that it's legal to possess in the States... go figure. But I also hit some people who said they got reliable service from these online vendors. Nothing really solid that I would quote as gold but maybe you can try one of the smaller, cheaper bottles first?
Damn, 0.04 liter bottle is $16. Isn't that like, a mouthful? :p
Damn, 0.04 liter bottle is $16. Isn't that like, a mouthful? :p
Posted 11 months ago
its definitely pricey but its not like something you drink daily or gulp down (i hope). In terms of cost, its fairly similar to say a more nice bottle of scotch whiskey in a cost:volume ratio. The one I want:
°-alc.-vol.---0.7-ltr..html
...is 60 bucks for 0.7 L. And as I said, Im more worried about getting nothing then actually spending the money on it. If i could walk down the street and pick up a bottle for a 100 bucks I would. The problem is that the above bottle which is 60, costs 58 to ship. So if i did order it, Id want to buy alot of it to get the best deal so it would be alot of money that could potentially yield me nothing if it got confiscated.....
ahha whatever I think im just gonna skip on this for now since I dont tinhk my desire to get a bottle really outweighs the risk involved and also the fact that I can get a free sip of it elsewhere on occasion.
°-alc.-vol.---0.7-ltr..html
...is 60 bucks for 0.7 L. And as I said, Im more worried about getting nothing then actually spending the money on it. If i could walk down the street and pick up a bottle for a 100 bucks I would. The problem is that the above bottle which is 60, costs 58 to ship. So if i did order it, Id want to buy alot of it to get the best deal so it would be alot of money that could potentially yield me nothing if it got confiscated.....
ahha whatever I think im just gonna skip on this for now since I dont tinhk my desire to get a bottle really outweighs the risk involved and also the fact that I can get a free sip of it elsewhere on occasion.
Bamboo Stick Posted 11 months ago
so if you don't get drunk off a glass what happened to the green fairy?
Posted 11 months ago
the whole charm of absinthe today is built upon this percieved notion that you will hallucinate or it has some sort of out-of-body experience. The only truth to this scientifically is that it does indeed include thujone which is known to cause epileptic and hallucinatory reactions, but only in extremely large doses. Absinthe in no fashion has ever contained enough for these effects to occur in any significant fashion. Off of wiki:
...many companies still play up the myth that absinthe contains a large amount of thujone and that it will produce some sort of hallucinatory effect on the drinker. Although it contains thujone, anyone binging on absinthe would die of alcohol poisoning long before the thujone would cause any major, i.e. life-threatening, effects.
Furthermore the notion of the greenfairy which refers to the above, also only refers to one style of absinthe, that being verte. Normal absinthe is usually blue in color, hence its name Blanche/la Bleue, and verte being green has an extra step involving the addition of a mixture of herbs. Basically its become this hip thing today to drink mainly due to the companies playing it up to be something more then mere alcohol and also the references in popular culture such as Moulin Rouge and Johnny Depp in From Hell.
So i guess to answer your question, its just alcohol, so if you get drunk off of only one normal drink like a martini or manhattan, then yes i guess you will. In terms of other effects besides drunkeness, its all myth. Most of the accounts taken from people who supposedly hallucinated off of this were usually on general alcohol binges or something equally extreme. Hence, its due more to the deterioration of their own brains then simply an insignificant amount of thujone in absinthe.
...many companies still play up the myth that absinthe contains a large amount of thujone and that it will produce some sort of hallucinatory effect on the drinker. Although it contains thujone, anyone binging on absinthe would die of alcohol poisoning long before the thujone would cause any major, i.e. life-threatening, effects.
Furthermore the notion of the greenfairy which refers to the above, also only refers to one style of absinthe, that being verte. Normal absinthe is usually blue in color, hence its name Blanche/la Bleue, and verte being green has an extra step involving the addition of a mixture of herbs. Basically its become this hip thing today to drink mainly due to the companies playing it up to be something more then mere alcohol and also the references in popular culture such as Moulin Rouge and Johnny Depp in From Hell.
So i guess to answer your question, its just alcohol, so if you get drunk off of only one normal drink like a martini or manhattan, then yes i guess you will. In terms of other effects besides drunkeness, its all myth. Most of the accounts taken from people who supposedly hallucinated off of this were usually on general alcohol binges or something equally extreme. Hence, its due more to the deterioration of their own brains then simply an insignificant amount of thujone in absinthe.
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